Geller vs Ramey
Pamela Geller posted a video of a joint interview with Ibrahim Ramey, who said some things that must be rebutted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcF9XxyZ55A&feature=player_embedded#at=13
It goes sour for me right off the bat when Ibrahim Ramey is introduced as affiliated with the Muslim American Society. After seeing the results of Balkanization in Czechoslovakia & Yugoslavia, I am compelled to say that I am an American. If you are a hypenated-American, and you ain't happy here, then its time to go home. So, go.
Two and one half minutes into the video, Ramey says that 9/11 was a "criminal attack, not an Islamic attack". That malicious malarkey raises my blood pressure significantly. I am PO'd. It is a good thing I was not within reach of him when he said that, because it would have precipitated a criminal act. That attack was planned over a span of eight years, by Muslims, motivated by the damnable doctrines of conquest, terror and genocide enshrined in the Qur'an and exemplified in the sunnah of their damned Profit. That attack was carried out by Muslims, who pronounced the takbir while slitting the throats of the flight crews.
When some damned Muslim slits a pilot's throat in the name of Allah and you assert that his act was not Islamic, I need to reach out and wipe the smirk off your face. It is equivalent to saying that the conquest of India and genocide of the Hindus was not Islamic or that the Assyrian & Armenian genocides were not Islamic. The denial of obvious truth is malicious and malignant. It must be repudiated.
Next, Ramey says that Muslims have First Amendment rights, like other Americans, in terms of freedom of religion. Yes, they do, because the founders of this nation, in their haste & process of compromise, and not anticipating that Muslims might immigrate at some future time, neglected to include a definition of religion in the Bill of Rights. Legitimate religions have spiritual and benevolent missions, they do good, not harm. Islam has a mercenary mission and is responsible for the early deaths of 270*106 people in the last 1400 years.
Is there a right to wage war upon us because we do not submit to your 'religion'? Is there a right to kill us, rape our widows, enslave our orphans and seize our property? All of those evils are inseverable parts of the practice of Islam and can neither be neglected nor expunged from it. If Jihad is possible in a given year, and is not performed, all who knew of the obligation are in sin.
If there is a right to practice Islam, then our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are voided because, as Moe said, our blood and property are not sacred to Muslims.
Next, he issued a denial of collective guilt. I did not hear Geller or anyone else assert that all Muslims are guilty of the Abomination. In my view, all who admired the act, who sympathized with its perpetrators, who celebrated or experienced schadenfreude share some the guilt. If you are a Muslim, and you disclaim that guilt, then in order to believe you I need to hear you sincerely abjure Surat al-Anfal, at-Taubah, al-Fath & as-Saff. You won't do that, because you can't do it and remain Muslim, so I will never believe you.
To add insult to injury, he asserts that Muslims are trying to establish a "new relationship with America" and "new relationships with the people of the United States. How can one discuss this without profanity? If they are Americans, then they are citizens of America and fellow citizens with us. No other relationship is possible. If they are Muslims, then they are predators and we are prey. Which are they???
He says that there are "numerous memorials" to the decedents. Show me an enumerated list, please; I believe that the politicians are still haggling over the design and execution of the Ground Zero Memorial, and the one in Pennsylvania is a crescent memorializing the ideology of the perpetrators, not the victims. He does not want to conflate the idea of a memorial into that of the right of Muslims to have a Mosque. When Muslims conquered India, they tore down the temples and replaced them with Mosques. They built two Mosques on the rubble of the Jewish Temple. They turned churches in Constantinople into Mosques. They build Mosques as a symbol of Islamic supremacy and that is exactly what the Cordoba House proposal is. They are rubbing our faces in the blood and decomposing flesh of the victims! If the insult does not bring you to the brink of incontinence, you may be taking too many tranquilizers.
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