Facebook Boycott

A major spike in blog hits aroused my curiosity. My post about the October 24 '09 Facebook boycott over Koran Toilet Paper Roll has been receiving an unusual number of hits. With some research, I discovered that there is a campaign to boycott Facebook for three days beginning at Noon May 19 because of the celebration of "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day".

One event page for the boycott has 7,067 confirmed guests. I found three groups related to the Draw Muhammad Day:
Everybody Draw Mohammed Day!, with 40,319 supporters, Everybody Draw Mohammad Day - May 20th, 2010, with 4,375 supporters and
Everybody draw Muhammad with 1,080 supporters.

Even the high court in Lahore has gotten into the act, ordering isps to block Facebook for three days. Muslims can't take criticism because Islam is false & malignant, and they know it. Moe warned his followers not to carry the Qur'an into Dar ul-harb because we would use it against them. He was right about that. The internet has made translations of the Qur'an & hadith widely available. We therefore know that the Qur'an is partially composed of situational scripture.

Searching Sahih Bukhari for "was revealed" provides clarifying details about several verses. One hadith lets the cat out of the bag.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3453:

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: I felt jealous of the women who offered themselves to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Then when Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, revealed this:" You may defer any one of them you wish, and take to yourself any you wish; and if you desire any you have set aside (no sin is chargeable to you)" (xxxiii. 51), I ('A'isha.) said: It seems to me that your Lord hastens to satisfy your desire.

We also know how Moe received his revelations: hallucinations secondary to epileptic fits.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 1, Number 2:

Narrated 'Aisha:

(the mother of the faithful believers) Al-Harith bin Hisham asked Allah's Apostle "O Allah's Apostle! How is the Divine Inspiration revealed to you?" Allah's Apostle replied, "Sometimes it is (revealed) like the ringing of a bell, this form of Inspiration is the hardest of all and then this state passes ' off after I have grasped what is inspired. Sometimes the Angel comes in the form of a man and talks to me and I grasp whatever he says." 'Aisha added: Verily I saw the Prophet being inspired Divinely on a very cold day and noticed the Sweat dropping from his forehead (as the Inspiration was over).

Sahih Muslim Book 007, Number 2654:

Ya'la b. Umayya reported on the authority of his father (Allah be pleased with them) that a person came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as he was at Ji'rana and he (the person) had been putting on a cloak which was perfumed, or he (the narrator) said: There was a trace of yellowness on it. He said (to the Holy Prophet): What do you command me to do during my Umra? (It was at this juncture) that the revelation came to the Apostle of Allah (way peace be upon him) and he was covered with a cloth, and Ya'la said: Would that I see revelation coming to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him). He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: Would it please you to see the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) receiving the revelations 'Umar lifted a corner of the cloth and I looked at him and he was emitting a sound of snorting. He (the narrator) said: I thought it was the sound of a camel. When he was relieved of this he said: Where is he who asked about Umra? When the person came, the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) said: Wash out the trace of yellowness, or he said: the trace of perfume and put off the cloak and do in your 'Umra what you do in your Hajj.

Perhaps most importantly, we know what motivated Moe: loot & extortion.

8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allâh desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.

I regret that I have no artistic ability whatsoever. I can only express my contempt for Moe's War Cult through the written word.

Kagan: HELL NO!!!

I just read Can Kagan Be Trusted to Defend the Constitution? in which Ross Kaminsky assembles the critical pieces of the nominee's attitude toward the First Amendment's free speech clause. I want you to follow that link to Human Events

Kaminsky points out how Kagan's arguments in important cases before the Supreme Court indicate an unacceptable lack of respect for the right of free expression. Crucial quotes from a paper she wrote amplify that concern. I am glad that Kaminsky posted a link to the paper, because I clicked it and saw its title. "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine" Since when do the ends justify the means? This quote was found on page 55 of the paper.

The realm of public expression may have too much of some kinds of speech, too little of others; some speakers may drown out or dominate their opposite numbers. Self-conscious redistribution of expressive opportunities seems the most direct way of correcting these defects and achieving the appropriate range and balance of viewpoint.

President Obama spoke to the graduates at Hampton University, giving us some clues.

And meanwhile, you’re coming of age in a 24/7 media environment that bombards us with all kinds of content and exposes us to all kinds of arguments, some of which don’t always rank that high on the truth meter. And with iPods and iPads; and Xboxes and PlayStations -- none of which I know how to work -- (laughter) -- information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation. So all of this is not only putting pressure on you; it’s putting new pressure on our country and on our democracy.

Perhaps outlining some crucial points will make things clear for you.

• bombards us
• all kinds of content
• exposes us
• all kinds of arguments
• don’t always rank that high on the truth meter
• information becomes a distraction
• putting new pressure on our country and on our democracy

That is dictator speak for "I need new laws to squelch my critics who are hampering my efforts to enslave you and cement my party in power." What is the relevance to Kagan's screed? Another outline is in order.

• too much of some kinds of speech
• drown out or dominate
• redistribution of expressive opportunities
• correcting these defects
• appropriate
• viewpoint.
• range
• balance

What do they have in common? Arrogance!! That single characteristic sticks out like a sore thumb. We are bombarded with all kinds of arguments, which may be untrue, and become a distraction, putting pressure on our democracy. There is too much of some speech, drowning out and dominating others. The remedy is redistribution of expressive opportunities assuring appropriate range and balance of viewpoint.

The President and his latest nominee to the Supreme Court are two nuts in a Socialist shell who seek legislation to criminalize criticism of their policies. That is exactly what the First Amendment is intended to prevent.

Those two nuts are not alone in that Socialist shell, they share it with Mark Lloyd, Obama's appointee to the FCC. Three years ago, he co-authored
"The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio". That screed asserts that there is too much Conservative speech on talk radio and suggests public policy changes to reduce Conservative speech, supplanting it with Socialist speech.

We are facing authoritarian demagogues who seek to overthrow our representative republic, replacing it with an autocracy. First, they must silence the guard dogs.

There are not enough Republicans in the Senate to block this nomination. Worse yet, they lack the resolve required, they are caving in. We have no recourse except to rise up and raise Hell. We must send a clear message to our Senators: Kagan is not fit to sit on the court: your vote for this nomination guarantees my vote against you in the next election cycle. Reverence for the rights enshrined in the Constitution is the most important qualification for a Supreme Court Justice; Kagan lacks it.

http://www.congress.org/ has a form you can use to send an email to your Senators. It is free and easy. I urge you to use it immediately.

Muslims Say: "Martin Sterling Should Be Killed"

I am an active participant in a Facebook group whose name includes an obscenity not proper to be printed in family friendly media. I will abbreviate it here as
F Islam. Visit that group only if you are not easily offended, at your own discretion, it is a place where members express their detestation of Moe's War Cult in explicit terms.

Recently, an extremely offensive message was posted on the group's wall, one which violates Facebook TOS. I will reproduce it here.

That wall post advocates the murder of a Facebook member. It has been reported to Facebook as an abusive post.

Following the link in the wall post opens this Group Information Page:



The victim posted on their wall, but his post was removed. This is a screen shot of the current state of their wall as of the time of this writing.



That group was reported to Facebook yesterday, but it is still up. It advocates the murder of a Facebook member because he expresses his opposition to a predatory institution which seeks total world domination through genocidal conquest. Take a good long look at their message:


Islam operates by intimidation. Facebook does not give a damn; do you? I do!!

Paki Persecution

I received this message in a Facebook note from a friend. I am reproducing it here in its entirety at the request of my friend. What follows is a copy & paste of the original message, unedited as I received it.

The American electorate needs to become aware of the reality of Islam. I believe that it is better for us to learn from the suffering of others than to experience it directly The message below includes the translated text of several threatening letters. Notice how the Muslim refers to Christians as dogs. They consider us to be less than human. See how they assert that Allah will reward them for killing Christians. Take due notice and vote against any candidate who does not curse and condemn Islam.`

Most of my posts are highly abstract, they deal with the doctrines of Islam, documenting them but not delving into the human level realities on the ground. The message reproduced below gives us a rare glimpse into the real impact of Islamic supremacism & arrogance on one Christian family in Pakistan. It shows us how Shari'ah is used to violate the human rights of Christians in a Muslim majority nation. It shows how justice is denied to them. Read it and curse Islam. Share it with your family, friends and congregation. Lets make the world painfully aware of the real personal impact of the AssWholliness which is Islam.

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The following is a letter that I am forwarding to you in hope that you will forward it to your pastors and congegrations and friends, or post on your blog sites. Thank you for any help you can give.

Compared to other parts of the world being a Christian in this country is a very easy thing. It requires relatively little sacrifice or courage. I have a friend in Pakistan who is requesting help. She is living in hiding with her mother, brothers and sister and her father is in prison facing death. This all because her father refused to stop working for their church, even after it was burned down by a mob of locals.

In a country where local governments and police answer to Muslim clerics, where women are imprisoned for the “crime” of being raped and young Christian girls are routinely kidnapped and forced into Muslim marriages, or mutilated with acid for refusing marriage Hector Aleem has had the courage to speak out against these things in the name of Christ. For this he has been imprisoned with the charge of blasphemy.

He has refused to renounce Christianity and convert to Islam. Converting to Islam would be the easy way out. It would solve his problems and ensure the safety of his wife and children, but he knows, like the missionaries recently beheaded in Somalia, that this is something a true soldier of Christ can never do. When he is called up before council he lets the Holy Spirit speak. Hector is a well respected Christian and human rights activist. Prior to his arrest he was awarded a national peace award by the Prime Minister of Pakistan.

Hector Aleem, Christian leader and human rights activist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRlUJUwjVKw

There is only one lawyer who will defend Hector and the family is having trouble raising the $2,500.00 needed to pay his fee. She is also asking for help in making this persecution widely known. I will be distributing this information to some media outlets and other churches to try to gather support for Hector and his family. Please pass this information on to your congregation to request their support and whatever help they can give. Like our military soldiers our soldiers of Christ deserve whatever support we can provide.

Hector’s children can be contacted by going to the Facebook group dedicated to the freeing of Hector. They are listed as admins.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=31790874758#!/group.php?gid=298776303670&ref=ts

Following are some emails from Hector’s daughter Mehwish giving more information about the case against her father and threats made against him and her family from their Muslim neighbors. She also provided me with photocopies of the original documents translated below.

Thank you,

Matthew Wells

Email 1, Summary of events:

I have translated this document
So here it is
Application to lodge FIR for 295BC
Respected sir,
To the senior superintendent of police Islamabad
It is requested that on August 2008 some officials of CDA destroyed a Church in Rawal Town in the guidance of Captain Faiz. and they insulted the crucifix and threw the Holy Bible into the garbage, and beat men and women and locked them up into the lockup of Shehzad town, and than set them free after the protest. We protested against all these officials but no action has been taken against them yet. Christians are still peace fully protesting against them that these officials should be terminated from their jobs because they insulted the Holy Bible and The Crucifix. Christian community is very angry for this incident and these officials are creating bad reputation of Pakistan. that is why it is requested to you to please take action against them and arrest them in a Blasphemy offence.

This is the start of the case. The CDA(capital Development Authority) has destroyed the Church and insulted the crucifix and than my father gave this application to file a case of blasphemy against them and on the contrary they filed the same case against my father.


Email 2, Threat letter:

Hi Matt

sending you a threat letter with translation. Actually my dad received this threat letter in 2004 when he was running his school with the name of Peace Worldwide in Islamabad.

Also sending you the pic of my father if you need it .

Cheers

Here's the Translation

Hello Mr. Hector Aleem,

I was willing to talk to you for many days, my one daughter is studying in your school but your school is not good at teaching. I think you don’t know me, I am an officer in a secret agency and now I came to know that you are an American spy and you are destroying the future of Pakistan. You are giving the secrets of Pakistan to America; your time of death is near. Tell your family to collect your dead body from the mountains of Muree. I am a Muslim and Muslims are not afraid of death, Infidels like you are afraid of death. After killing you I will convert your wife and daughters to Islam, I want to tell you everything before your death. You are feeding your Christians by destroying the future of Muslim kids and looting money from them. I will seize your home and will cut your corpse into pieces and will feed those pieces to your own dogs. Osama Bin Laden was not scared when he destroyed whole America even he was a single Muslim, then you are like an ant in front of me. I will destroy your NGO, black dog have you seen your face you black wind.

I will throw acid on your black face and I am not scared, your own security guards will kill you on my orders. Okay I will see you at Muree maybe that will be the last journey of your life.

You who play with the future of Children I will destroy you and the world will watch. I will finish off your sons and there will be no one to take your name again. Son of a pig you are a pig you pig eater. Once you and I met in America maybe you don’t remember. I will kidnap the Children and staff of your school, now just wait and see what I do to you. Should I tell you the time of your death or should I tell you later.

Good bye black dog, wait for your death

Life is Knife


Email 3, More threat letters:

Translation of threat letter
"Kausar Parveen, wife of Hector Aleem,
"We know where you and your children live. This blasphemer [Hector] has been arrested because of us, now take care of yourself. As I told your husband, no one will be left from his generation. We will destroy your whole generation. You are Christian and it is a good deed to kill you. My Allah will be very happy if I kill you.

"That bastard's bail had been rejected because of us. Now it's your son's turn. I will keep your daughters, and then you can call your Americans and Germans. Your husband is a traitor and his torment has just started, you just wait for your turn. We are very close to you. You can't hide from us. If you all want to save yourself then there is only one condition: Just embrace Islam. Allah will be happy for you; we only want this.".

And the translation of Threat Letter No. 2
"Kausar Parveen, wife of Hector Aleem,

"Toilet cleaners, Christians. You all deserve to be shot with a gun. First your husband blasphemed against our beloved Prophet Muhammad, and now you don't want to get punished? Remember! If there comes a bastard judge who releases your husband, then we won't leave your husband. Even If you try to leave this country, then we won't let you go easily. I am proudly announcing that Sunni Tehreek will be responsible for your death. Go and show this letter to anyone. We can sacrifice every life on our beloved Prophet."




Email 4, Details and history:

I know it is very lengthy and very detailed but you can take important point or reduce them. so here it is

My father Hector Aleem was arrested on the midnight of 21 January 2009, the police raided our house with large number (50 policemen) of policemen some of them were in uniform and rest of all were in plain clothes, they trespassed our house without any lady police. They beat my father and my mother and my siblings (my sister 25 and two brothers 13, 18); they started to destroy everything in our house and also broke and insulted the picture of Jesus Christ. We kept on asking them that what is the problem and who are they and what is happening but they didn’t tell us anything and continued beating us. They also looted our house and took jewelry and 50,000 rupees. Then they took my father to some unknown place, at that time he was wearing trousers and a shirt, they didn’t let him wear any warm clothe or shoes (that was the month of January and the temperature was approximately -1 degree Celsius). They took him bear footed,(my father wasn’t well and next day he had an appointment with a heart specialist and a surgeon). Than we called the emergency police and told them that we don’t know who took my father (because we didn’t know that if they really are policemen), than at 3 Am we received a call in our residence that my father is in Shalimar police office Islamabad. I and my mother went to the police station and took some warm clothes and his medicine and shoes but when we reached we weren’t allowed to give him any of these things neither these things were provided to him by the police. We again asked them about the case that why he is in police custody and what has he done but nobody told us about the case than after 24 hours we came to know that he has been arrested in a blasphemy case. Than my father was supposed to be brought in front of the judge and than any legal process was suppose to be done but nobody took him to the judge and they secretly took him to the Rawalpindi (the twin city of Islamabad). My father was kept hungry for 24 hours, he is a heart patient and had his angioplasty two years ago but he was beaten by the police severely and was tortured mentally and physically. The Investigation Officer Zafar Iqbal abused him and told him that he will beat him till death and will kill my both brothers and make us (me, my sister and my mother) Muslim. The judge gave him 15 days remand and the policemen beat him for 15 days with the order of the judge who was also a Maulvi having long beard.

The case is registered in R.A Bazaar police station Rawalpindi. According to the FIR (first information report) an unknown person sent a blasphemous sms to the leader of a Sunni Tehreek. The sim card was not registered so they searched for the culprit. When they saw the list of the persons the culprit contacted, they found many names, but in the list the only Christian name was my father’s, he made a call to my father. No other person whom the culprit called was arrested, not even called for investigation. The culprit contacted 90 people and none of them is included in the investigation. It seems that my father has just been trapped in a false case so that they could let him down. My father did not send the blasphemous message he was arrested only because he was the only Christian in the list. According to the law of Pakistan an individual cannot be the complainant of Blasphemy case. Law says that no Blasphemy case can be registered without permission of Magistrate and only higher police officer can be complainant of a blasphemy case, but the complainant in my father’s case is an individual Maulvi (Muslim religious leader). The police are favoring him and the case is registered unlawfully but still my father has spent 14 months in jail.

HISTORY
My father Hector Aleem is running a NGO with the name of Peace Worldwide, established in 1996. when he planned to establish Peace Worldwide at that time we were living in Karachi, but when he started to work for Peace Worldwide some robbers broke into our house and tried to kill my father, (they actually wanted to kill him because of his work) they kept him on gun point for 2 hours but some how they left the house, and took some electronics and money and jewelry. But as they didn’t kill him they continuously tried to kill him that is why we left Karachi and reached here in Islamabad.
Peace Worldwide is registered with the government of Pakistan and has special consultative status with Economic and the Social Council of United Nations. Peace worldwide was working on Human Rights without any discrimination for Christian and Muslim. Peace Worldwide was working on Blasphemy Law also and has highlighted and solved some of those cases. There were many schools running under Peace worldwide in some important cities of Pakistan but in 2004 these schools were closed by the pressure of Maulvies because they accused my father that he has been teaching Christian teachings to the Muslim children, the threat letter is attached. He was also attacked by the Islamists and his left foot was fractured because of that attack, report is attached. An Islamic Organization Shabab Mili was responsible for this attack. Than an employee of Peace Worldwide Irfan Khokhar was killed brutally by some Islamists.
Than in August 2008 my father started work on a Church (Chak Shehzad Church in Islamabad) destroyed by CDA (capital development authority) at that time my father started to receive verbal threats by some Islamic group, but he didn’t stop and continued working for the destroyed church than one day police arrested two men having 70 bullets and two guns and they told police that they were instructed to fire all 70 bullets into my father’s chest. Eight criminal cases were lodged against my father because he was still working for the destroyed Church. But he was declared innocent by the court. In simple words the Islamists tried very hard to finish my father because they wanted him to quit his work.

When they tried everything and nothing happened than they lodged the blasphemy case against him, he was arrested in January and the remaining of the Church in Chak Shehzad was demolished by the CDA in May 2009. Than two police officers came to my father in jail and they told him that they will file so many cases against him that he will not be able to bear them and he could not be free for many years. After that they started many other cases against him and they used to take him to the police station from prison and beat him and torture him in front of the Maulvies and Taliban from Peshawar.

The website of Peace Worldwide was hacked now it is blocked by the government but when you search for the website you will find a note that the account has been suspended due to the non payment of the bill. I am also attaching the e mail from the hosting company of the website. The website of Peace Worldwide was closed with a lame excuse that this website contains some material against Islam (told by an employee of the hosting company verbally they didn’t mention it in the e mail) which isn’t true.

I really don’t know the current situation of my father because we aren’t allowed to meet him in the jail; he is not being treated well in the prison. He is 51 years old, a heart patient who used to take his medicine regularly but now he is not even allowed to take his medicine. When he has his hearing a large number of mob gather outside the court and raise slogans against my father and Christianity and tells judge that they won’t let him out, if the judge will free him they will kill him outside the court. These are the words of the lawyer of Sunni Tehreek. We went to the minister of Law and Justice Mr. Farooq H Naik, he told us to visit his joint secretary but when the joint secretary heard about the blasphemy law he suddenly became furious and told us that my father would get sever punishment.

My father was very active in Human Rights that he was awarded a Peace Award by Mr. Yousaf Raza Gillani the prime minister of Pakistan and he was also invited by Mr. Asif Ali Zardari the president of Pakistan and many other important politicians of Pakistan ( the reason to tell this is he has a positive and good reputation). All invitations and pictures are attached.

Right now my father is in jail and we are hiding ourselves in a house, we usually don’t go out neither any of us is doing a job or studying. We have left our house and our studies; we can’t go out because we also have received two threat letters. Letters are attached.

To contact the jail authority, you can write to him I don’t know his name but your letter will reach him, the address is

The superintendent of Jail
Adiala Jail
Rawalpindi
Pakistan

And his phone number is 0092 51 5574786

Just ask for the superintendent of jail. And don’t tell them anything against Islam or anything negative about the government of Pakistan but you can tell them the world is watching and they should take care of him and the family should be given the permission to meet him. And they should provide him a doctor and he should be given his medicines.
I am also giving you other important phone numbers and addresses.

PRESIDENT OF PAKISTAN
To the president of Pakistan
Mr. Asif Ali Zardari
Aiwan e Sadar
Islamabad
Pakistan.

PRIME MINISTER OF PAKISTAN
To the prime minister of Pakistan
Mr. Yousaf Raza Gillani
Prime Minister House, Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Fax: + 92 51 9221596

FEDERAL MINISTER OF LAW
Justice and Human Rights
S Block, Pakistan Secretariat, Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Fax: +92 51 920 2628

MINISTER OF INTERIOR
Ministry of Interior
Room No. 404, 4th Floor, R Block,
Pak Secretariat
Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Fax: +92 51 920 2624
Tel: +92 51 921 2026

MINISTER OF HUMAN RIGHTS
Syed Mumtaz Alam Gillani.
Old US Aid Building (3rd Floor)
Attaturk Avenue
G-5/1 Islamabad
Pakistan
Fax: +92 51 9201631
Tel: +92 51 9210196
E mail: Sola@hrdiv.gov.pk

SUPREME COURT OF PAKISTAN
Chief Justice of Pakistan
Mr. Iftikhar Ahmed Chaudry
Constitution Avenue, Islamabad
Telephone: 051-9220581-9220600
Fax: 051-9213452

Mr. MIAN SHAHBAZ SHARIF
Chief Minister of Punjab
H-180 Model Town, Lahore
PAKISTAN
Fax: +92 42 5881383

MR. SYED HAMID SAEED KAZMI
Minister for Religious Affairs
Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Tel: +92 51 9214856 / 9206982
Fax: +92 51 9213593

DR. FAQIR HUSSAIN
Registrar
Supreme Court of Pakistan
Constitution Avenue, Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Fax: + 92 51 9213452
(Yes you can publish this story with all documents and if there's any mistake in English please correct it coz i am not that good in English and also send me the copy or link of all story. and feel free to ask if you dont understand anything.)

Dance of the Liars

Bare Naked Islam posted a video of Attorney General Holder's testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. In this video, Eric Holder is being questioned by Rep. Lamar Smith R, Tx., who is trying to coax the A.G. into giving a straight answer to a crooked question. This dialog demands close attention, there is some cross talk involved. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOQt_mP6Pgg&feature=player_embedded



I have attempted to format Rep. Smith's questions in Century Gothic and A.G. Holder's answers in Ariel.

In the case of all three attempts in the last year, the terrorist attempts, one of which was successful, those individuals have had ties to radical Islam. Do you feel that these individuals might have been incited to take the actions that they did because of radical Islam?

Because of? --Radical Islam.--There are a variety of reasons why I think people have taken these actions. Its hard--I think you have to look at each individual case. I mean we are in the process now of talking to Mr. Shahzad to try to understand what it is that drove him to take the action he took.

But radical Islam could have been one of the reasons ?

There are a variety of reasons--But was radical Islam one of them? -- There are a variety of reasons why people do these things. Some of them are potentially religious convictions--But all I'm asking is if you think among those variety of reasons, radical Islam might have been one of the reasons that the individuals took the steps that they did?-- We say radical Islam...I think those people who espouse a version of Islam that is not--Are you uncomfortable with attributing any of their actions to radical Islam it sounds like it?--No, I don't want to say anything negative about a religion that is not appropriate--I'm talking about radical Islam, I'm not talking about the general religion--Right and I'm saying that a person like Anwar Awlaki,-- for instance, who has a version of Islam that is not consistent with the teachings of of it and espouses a radical version--Could Radical Islam have motivated have motivated these individuals to take the steps that they did? --I certainly think that it is possible that people who espouse a radical version of Islam have had an ability to have an impact on people like Mr. Shahzad.--And could it have been the case in one of these three instances ?--Could that have been the case?--Yes--again, could one of these three individuals have been incited by radical Islam? Apparently you feel that they could have been.-- I think potentially incited by a view of Islam that is inconsistent with--It is hard to get an answer yes or no but let me go on to my next question, ...

Rush Limbaugh & Sean Hannity had fun with this video clip, playing the sound track for their audiences. They drew attention to the fact that Holder carefully avoided attributing terror attacks to "radical Islam". Since I am an amateur, not dependent on advertisers for revenue, I can analyze the dialog more deeply than the professionals who are beholden to political correctness.

There are two critical statements in the dialog.

• "No, I don't want to say anything negative about a religion that is not appropriate"
• "I'm talking about radical Islam, I'm not talking about the general religion"

These politicians are trying to convey a false concept of Islam: that it is a religion with 'radical' and 'moderate' forms. Islam is a way of life, not a religion. Its religious component is a social control mechanism which shields the aggressive way of life from recognition while it motivates Muslims to participate in genocidal conquest. Their tactic has two objectives: first, to avoid being labeled "racist" & "bigot", second to avoid offending potential voters.

Some insightful person whose identity I have forgotten, said "Its Islam, Stupid.". Qualifiers such as 'radical' and catch phrases such as 'Islamofascism' distract us from objective factual reality which few are willing to acknowledge.

This hadith reveals too much about Islam, pay close attention to the parts I have emphasized.

Sunan Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455:

Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.

Jihad and agriculture are presented as alternative ways of life, agriculture is rejected in favor of jihad. Jihad is their "original religion". That should give you a clue.

Don't hand me the standard line of crap about jihad being a struggle against your ego. Moe waged war against anyone he could plunder, he did not struggle against temptation. After all, he married a six year old girl. He also married the wife of his adopted son and seven other women besides captives and slaves he sexually exploited. Jihad is defined in Islamic law as "to war against non-Muslims".
One Qur'an verse conveys vital knowledge, affording you another clue.

9:111. Verily, Allâh has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allâh's Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur'ân. And who is truer to his covenant than Allâh? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success .

Fight in Allah's cause, kill & be killed; its what Muslims do. Got a clue yet? The Qur'an mandates jihad, declaring that it is ordained for Muslims. It also commands Muslims to wage war against disbelievers. Surah Al-Anfal 39 commands Muslims to fight pagans until resistance ceases and only Allah is worshiped. Surah At-Taubah 29 commands them to fight "people of the book" until we are subjugated and submit to annual extortion demands. Moe confirmed those imperatives, as recorded in Sahih Bukhari 1.8.387.

Think back to the playing of the cockpit voice recorder after 9/11. What did they say while they slit the throats of the crew? What did Nidal Malik Hasan say when he opened fire at Fort Hood? Why shout "Allāhu Akbar"? Mohammad Atta has the answer for you: "When the confrontation begins, strike like champions who do not want to go back to this world. Shout, 'Allahu Akbar,' because this strikes fear in the hearts of the non-believers." Allah is greatest just happens to be what they say when they slaughter a goat for eid and when slitting the throat of a captive.

What is the objective of striking fear? It is done for the purpose of rendering us confused, agitated and unable to mount an effective defense; to make us easy prey. It is commanded in Surah Al-Anfal 12 & 60. It is exemplified in Surat Al-Ahzab 26 & Al-Hashr 2. It is celebrated in Sahih Bukhari 1.7.331 & 4.52.220. Terrorism is not exceptional. Terrorism is not radical. Terrorism is not extreme; it is an intrinsic part of orthodox Islam.

Full documentation of the fatal facts outlined in this blog post is freely available.

• Islamic Terror.chm [30.4KB] A 6 part series from Freedom Ain't Free.
• Jihad.chm [45KB] A 6 part series from Freedom Ain't Free.
• What's Wrong With Islam/Muslims.chm [23KB].
• Islamic Supremacism [49KB] A 3 part series from Freedom Ain't Free.
• Islam's Mercenary Mission 08/30/09 Full exposure of the dirty details of Islam's foundational purpose: accrual of spoils & sex slaves. It is a war cult, not a 'religion of peace'. This post is intended to serve as a reference link for bloggers & forum participants who expose Islam to the ignorant. Post a link to it instead of re-inventing the wheel.
• FOMIJihad.chm [163.4KB] The Offensive Jihad thread from the old FOMI anti Islam forum. This thread contains several significant quotes from Fiqh, both ancient and modern.
• What's Wrong With Islam/Muslims? 10/10/09 If nothing else, read this post and share it with all your family, friends & associates. This post contains the most vital information about Islam, fully documented and including common sense refutations of the most popular objections raised by bigoted multicultural idiots. Copy this post, paste it into an email, and send it to everyone you can hope to influence. Exhort the recipients to forward it.

Now is the time for the electorate to disrespectfully demand honesty from our deceptive and cowardly politicians. Tell them that if they continue to lie to us, we will remember Nov. 2 ' 10.

Fallen Crusaders: In Memorium

Facebook, like other politically correct organizations, has a nasty tendency to disable and delete the accounts of members who criticize Islam & left wing politicians. It also deletes groups those members have created and participated in.

Members who had spent years building their social networks and many hours writing discussion thread posts suffered the instantaneous, total and permanent waste of their efforts. Many interesting and informative debates and discussions vaporized, deleted without a trace.

A new Facebook group has been created for the purpose of memorializing those fallen Crusaders and groups: Fallen Crusaders: In Memoriam. If you know someone who was deleted from Facebook for telling the truth, you can join this group and post their name on the wall. An Administrator will then transfer that name to the Group News column as a permanent memorial.

Islam is the Enemy

A blog titled 'YARDY YARDY YARDY" published a post about moves to ban the burqa and minarets. I will quote and refute the concluding paragraph.

But isn't that confusing moderate Islam, with the extremists who kill and bomb in the name of their wild interpretations of the Qur’an? Yes, the memories of 9/11 will forever demonise Islam, but in reality it should only demonise those carrying out the terrorist attacks.
Islam is not the enemy: its radical variants are.

Moderate Islam is a figment of fertile imagination, it does not exist. Islam is not moderate, it is a demonic mandate to terrorize the entire world and subject it to genocidal aggression. Islam is what Allah said, Moe repeated & exemplified. Allah said that fighting is ordained for Muslims. He ordered Muslims to fight pagans until resistance ceased and only Allah was worshiped. He ordered Muslims to fight "people of the book" until they are subjugated and submit to extortion. Moe confirmed the orders, then he invaded his neighbors.

Allah said that he would cast terror. He ordered Muslims to build a strong army to strike terror into their enemies. Then he cast terror, so that one of the local Jewish settlements was conquered, the men killed and their widows & orphans enslaved. Moe said that he was made victorious by terror.

There is only one correct interpretation of the Qur'an, Moe's interpretation which is exemplified by his military career of 86 battles. To discover what Moe said and did about the Qur'an, exemplifying his interpretation of his recitation, turn to

Ignorant idiots think that Moe was a benign saint, the best and greatest of men. They are blissfully unaware of the fact that he dictated extortion letters to his scribes and had them hand delivered to neighboring kings and emperors. He followed up those missives by sending his army.

The founder of Islam was a barbarian warlord who preached and practiced genocidal aggression. How then can anyone assert that the institution he founded is benign and anodyne?

Islam is a deen: way of life; intra-species predation. Muslims are people who believe in and implement that deen. They are the enemy. The assumption that Muslims accept the "good parts" and reject the rest is based on false hope and misunderstanding. Islam is all or nothing, not a la carte.

Ignorant Comment Answered

One reader comment appended to a New York Times article about the Times Square bomber deserves a detailed reply. The article included a photograph of the bomber's copy of the Noble Qur'an. That translation is available on the web, it can be downloaded in pdf format. The chm version is more than 29mb, I don't know the size of the pdf version. If you don't want to clutter up your hard disk, you can read it on line at the King Fahd Complex. The Hilali & Khan translation does contain parenthetical expressions from tafsir to clarify ambiguous verses. It also includes the translator's commentary. The link to the on line version is to 2:190, which is about defensive jihad, but the translator's comment defines offensive jihad with extreme clarity and accuracy.

It is important to note that this book is not the Koran, but "The Noble Koran", which is a version of the Koran with commentary woven into the text. It is widely distributed by Wahabis and extremists in the U.S. Its intention is to distort the Koran and spread an extremist view of Islam. This book does not represent the beliefs of hundreds of millions of Muslims, and we should not make them the enemy.

Muslims consider all translations of the Qur'an to be non-canonical. They assert that it is impossible to translate it from Arabic to another language without sacrificing accuracy.

The true meaning of the Qur'an can only be discovered by observing how the man who revealed it followed its dictates. The experts who explain the Qur'an in tafsir compare parallel verses and hadith to determine their meaning.

The comment author asserts that the Noble Qur'an is intended to distort the Qur'an with an extreme slant. The assertion is offered without evidence to prove it.

The assertion can be tested by comparing multiple translations. http://www.quranbrowser.com/ displays a table of ten parallel translations. http://www.openburhan.net displays 17 translations including a literal translation and a word by word breakdown of the Arabic text linked to an Arabic/English dictionary.

The ayat most significant to the jihad issue are 2:216, 8:39, 8:60 & 9:29. When you compare the translations, you will discover that the main difference is that Hilali & Khan tried to modernize 8:60 by inserting a parenthetical list of modern weapons.

The titles of Ibn Kathir's explanations of 8:39 & 9:29 make their meanings extremely obvious:

• The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr
• The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah

The jihad imperatives are confirmed in this hadith: Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387. Allah said "fight them"; Moe said "I have been ordered to fight". The ultimate confirmation is found in Shari'ah. Reliance of the Traveller, Book O, Chapter 9 tells us what the caliph does as a normal course of action.

• O9.8 The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice,...
• O9.9 The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim...

The Qur'an may not represent the beliefs of hundreds of millions of Muslims, but it sets the standard of conduct for more than a billion Muslims. It commands them to wage war against us. Why did Muslims march from Mecca to conquer the Arabian peninsula, North Africa, Southern & Eastern Europe and nearly half of Asia?

The issue is not moderate : extremist, it is hypocrite : believer. The hypocrite's Islam "will not go beyond their throats". Believers are only those who "strive with their wealth and their lives for the Cause of Allâh". What does that mean? The answer is in 9:111.

• 9:111. Verily, Allâh has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allâh's Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur'ân. And who is truer to his covenant than Allâh? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success .

Got a clue yet? "They fight in Allâh's Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed." I have two more ayat for the terminally clueless.

• 4:57. But those who believe (in the Oneness of Allâh - Islâmic Monotheism) and do deeds of righteousness, We shall admit them to Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise), abiding therein forever. ...
• 9:120. It was not becoming of the people of Al-Madinah and the bedouins of the neighbourhood to remain behind Allâh's Messenger (Muhammad when fighting in Allâh's Cause) and (it was not becoming of them) to prefer their own lives to his life. That is because they suffer neither thirst nor fatigue, nor hunger in the Cause of Allâh, nor they take any step to raise the anger of disbelievers nor inflict any injury upon an enemy but is written to their credit as a deed of righteousness. ...

Angering and injuring disbelievers are deeds of righteousness. Re-read 9:120 , paying close attention to the clause I emphasized with bold face.

Islam is the enemy. Without Muslims who believe in it and attempt to implement it, Islam would be harmless words in musty old books. But so long as there are Muslims, the risk remains that some of them will believe in and attempt to implement Allah's jihad imperatives.

Another Attack on the Ban Islam!! Group

A group styling itself Anti Freemason and Illuminati sent a representative to the Ban Islam!! group, where he posted this:

The significant text reads as follows: "

Islam is a religion of peace. Islam have an enemy. Islam invaded the Illuminati city of Constantinople. And now we shall burn the city to the ground..."

Does that seem like a threat to you? It does to me. I followed the link and found this on their wall:

The text reads as follows: "

A sister calling us to launch attack at a group called "Ban Islam" how manhy of you united Anti-Masons of the world shall do so? Even if it means "Ban Christianity" we must spread the truth "BAN ILLUMINATI And FREMASONRY".. How many of you agree?"

That is a great question; how many of their 17,081 members will join the jihad against the Ban Islam !! group? So far, it appears that Muhammad is the only member of his group to spam the wall at Ban Islam!!. He has pretty well filled up the page with malicious malarkey.

Watch this SIOA Video

Bare Naked Islam posted this powerful video.. I want you to view it. I want you to share it with others. The electorate needs to know the truth about this issue. Geller & Spencer have started the ball rolling. BNI has boosted it. Others must kick the ball and keep it rolling. I am passing the ball to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY1o3_YCPg8&feature=player_embedded



In the video, Rifqa Barry pours out the heart of her story, one of honor killing. Honoricide is widely considered to be a cultural issue separate from Islam. Those harboring that misconception ignore the fact that Islam is not a religion, it is an all-encompassing way of life. In fact, Islamic law is not silent on this issue.
Under Islamic law, Rifqa's father can kill her with impunity. The following quote is from Reliance of the Traveller.

-4- a father or mother (or their fathers of mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring;

That quote is part of a list of killings for which there is no indemnity (blood money). The list is given in Book O, Chapter 1.2.

Rifqa Barry is subject to the death penalty for rebellion against Allah. In Islam's eyes she deserves to be killed.

O8.1

When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.

O8.2

In such a case, it is obligatory for the caliph (A: or his representative) to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does, it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed.

O8.4

There is no indemnity for killing an apostate (O: or any expiation, since it is killing someone who deserves to die).

O4.2

The indemnity for killing a male Muslim is 100 camels.

Pay particular attention to the clauses I emphasized in the quote below; they speak directly to the issue of inequality.

O4.9

(A: For the rulings below, one multiplies the fraction named by the indemnity appropriate to the death or injury's type of intentionality and other relevant circumstances that determine the amount of a male Muslim's indemnity (def: o4.2-6 and o4.13). )

The indemnity for the death or injury of a woman is one-half the indemnity paid for a man.

The indemnity paid for a Jew or Christian is one-third of the indemnity paid for a Muslim. The indemnity paid of a Zoroastrian is one-fifteenth of that a Muslim.

When a miscarriage results from someone having struck the stomach of a pregnant woman (O: or other part of her, or when someone frightens her, resulting in a miscarriage), the indemnity for the fetus is a male or female slave worth one-twentieth of the indemnity payable for killing the fetus's father, or one-tenth that of its mother. (A: The indemnity is whatever they agree upon.)

Is this clear to you yet? Killing a male Muslim will cost you 100 camels. Killing a female Muslim will cost you 33 camels. Killing a Christian will cost you 33 camels. Killing an apostate is free. Killing your own offspring is free. Get a clue, for Chrissake!!!

Every time a Muslim, politician, preacher, commentator or academic tells you that Islam:

• is great
• is a religion
• is peaceful
• is an equally valid pathway to God
• respects human dignity
• respects human equality

he or she is a damn liar deserving all the contempt & detestation you can muster. Voting for such a politician is a suicidal act of treason.

Interviewer Tries to Trap Geert Wilders

I found this video at Bleed the Soul, through a Google Alert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lMkwH9ODCU&feature=player_embedded



I have attempted to transcribe the interview. Unfortunately, there is a lot of fast talking, and parts of the audio track are unintelligible. I can't speak a word of Dutch, so I should not knock Geert's fluency in English, but his syntax could be improved.

The point I really want to make is that the Islamic ideology is facing a real threat to our freedom--to our western society so the values of our society are based on Judaism and Christianity; on humanism. And I'm also here in the United States to learn, I mean, the United states is the country when it comes to freedom of speech and I'm here to learn in order to propose a European kind of First Amendment because unfortunately, free speech is on trial In Europe today.

It ain't the ideology that poses a threat, it is the believers' attempt to actualize it that threatens us. The European legal system is so different from ours that I' doubt that our concept of free speech can be adapted to fit the European system. The change would be so revolutionary that I doubt that it can be done in the short term.

You know, I watched the film on line and I would call it fearmongering at best, at worst, it really reminded me of a kind of propaganda thats been used to trigger violence and discrimination from Nazi Germany to Rwanda.

If vampirism was real instead of mythological, and vampires were sucking blood, killing people and turning them into vampires, would exposing them be 'fearmongering'? I would call it sounding a warning. Fitna demonstrates the connection between the words of the Qur'an and the action of Muslim mobs stirred up by Muslim clerics. Arabia, North Africa, nearly half of Asia and a considerable part of Southern and Eastern Europe were conquered by Islam in the past. Millions of people were slaughtered in the process. Europe is in danger of demographic conquest as well as terrorist attacks. The interviewer seems to feel that we should keep silent in the face of those imminent dangers.

Well, unfortunately, this is not true, I mean, I didn't use any actors in the movie, the movie was made by radical Muslims themselves. I used certain Surahs and verses from those Surahs and I used real images from 9/11 and the radical Imam who said that he would conquer the whole world and the death of one of my fellow countrymen in Amsterdam. And so, unfortunately I could not have made such a movie about Christianity; I have to say fortunately I could not make such a movie about Christianity or Judaism. Of course it would be ridiculous to say that all Muslims are terrorists, this is nonsense, but unfortunately, most of the terrorists in the world today are Muslims. And the ideology of Islam is really, and I truly believe that, is a threat to our free society.

Islam is terrorism; therefore Muslims are terrorists. In 3:151, Allah said: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they joined others in worship with Allâh, for which He had sent no authority; their abode will be the Fire and how evil is the abode of the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong­doers). In 8:12 Allah again declared that he would cast terror. In 33:26 & 59:2, Allah provides examples of his casting terror and describes the results.
Islam's founder bragged about being made victorious by terror, as recorded in Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220. Terrorism is a tactic of Jihad. In 8:60, Allah commands Muslims to build the largest possible arsenal, for the purpose of terrifying their perceived enemies. That is related to 8:39 & 9:29 in which Allah comands Muslims to wage war against pagans, Jews & Christians until only Allah is worshiped and the Jews & Christians are subjugated and extorted.

Islam divides the world into two houses: the house of Islam and the house of war. Dar al-harb is wherever Allah's writ don't run. Dar al-harb must be conquered and subsumed into Dar al-Islam. . Islam is perpetual war; terrorism. Without Muslims it would be totally impotent, just books on a shelf.

But you use the extremes of that and in the film...the extremes of people that have, you know, who have lost all reason and I have to ask you: Is it freedom of speech you are talking about or freedom of hate speech?

There are no extremes; there is only Islam as revealed and exemplified by Moe. Those people depicted in the Islamic promotional videos included in Fitna never had any reason to lose, they were brainwashed with Islam from birth. Jihad, terrorism & genocide are not exceptional, they are standard issue Islam.

The Qur'an is a combination of hate speech and incitement to violence.

No. I am not somebody who is in favor of hate speech at all. I want to open the eyes of the political elite in Europe, and maybe even the United States that Islam is not just another religion it can not be compared with Christianity or Judaism. I believe that Islam is more like a totalitarian ideology that rules all aspects of life; it wants to rule all aspects of society, it doesn't want to integrate in society but it wants to submit. So I think it is more to be compared with other totalitarian ideologies like Communism or Fascism. And, of course, I make a distinction between the people and the ideology. I have nothing against Muslims, I hate nobody and the majority of Muslims in our society are law abiding people like you and me. But I have a lot of fear of the influx of the Islamic totalitarian ideology that at the end of the day, I'm sure, unfortunately, will cost us our freedom if we don't stand up and fight to preserve our own identity.

Maududi described Islam as a revolution. Moe called it a deen: way of life. What is it really? Perpetual war. Islam is perpetual war, propagated for the ostensible purpose of making the entire world submit to Islam; for the real purpose of accruing spoils, tribute, power and sex slaves for Moe and his successors. You who doubt this fatal fact need to read the Qur'an & hadith to comprehend objective factual reality. The parts you need to read have been concentrated in "Islam's mercenary Mission"; read it and follow the links to the source documents.

Muslims are here to dominate; to take over and subjugate us, not to assimilate. They intend to force us to submit. Rational and informed lovers of liberty have something against Muslims: Islam. Islam imposes on Muslims a demonic mandate to conquer the entire world and confers upon them a license to kill, rape, enslave and pillage, open season with no bag limit. Participation in Jihad is the only guarantee a Muslim has of not being condemned to eternal damnation. Being killed in Jihad is the only guarantee a Muslim has of obtaining one of the best seats in Paradise.

You know, moderate Muslims in the United States and beyond -- they don't like the extremists either; they don't like the calls to kill non-believers as they are called in the terminology that you quoted. Have you ever thought about joining hands with them to fight the extremism rather than attacking their faith?

Extremists are a figment of your imagination. There are believers and there are hypocrites, whose Islam goes no deeper than their throats. Allah tests them by Jihad to determine which is which. What you call extremism is the doctrine of their faith; its fundamental core tenets. No Muslim can abjure the ayat which command perpetual warfare, terrorism & genocide. To do so is tantamount to apostasy, the penalty for which is immediate death. If you don't believe this or can't comprehend it, then you need to sample Islamic law. Don't worry, the vital parts have been extracted from the 1200 page book and documented for your reading displeasure.

• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO9-0.html Jihad defined as making war on kuffar.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO9-1.html The communal obligation to attack kuffar at least once each year.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO9-8.html The caliph makes war on Jews... codification of 9:29.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO9-9.html The caliph fights all other people... codification of 8:39.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO25-9.html The eighth duty of subordinate rulers: to undertake Jihad.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO11-5.html Restrictions on dhimmis.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO11-10.html Acts which violate Dhimma, subjecting the violator to the death penalty.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO9-13.html Women & children enslaved by reason of capture.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO8-7.html List of acts entailing apostasy.
• http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO8-2.html Penalty for Apostasy.

So, like I said before, sir, I am not against--I don't have a problem with Muslims as persons and of course I acknowledge the fact that there are persons who call themselves .....

That is pandering to political correctness; it ain't a good sign.

But wouldn't you admit that the film Fitna is an assault; an attack on the Qur'an and on and the verses in it?

The question implies that there is something wrong about challenging and exposing evil.

Of course, but the Qur'an, according to me, is a fascist book, so my aim is to attack and to expose the real nature of the Quran.

Have you read some of the passages in the Old Testament?

That is the standard diversionary attack: argumentum tu-quoque: "You're one, too!". It belongs in the elementary schoolyard, not in a serious interview about a live and death issue of existential conflict.

Of course I did, and, as you know, the Old testament and I know--everybody knows that passages of the book [unintelligible] and you know, that after the more harsh parts of the Old testament there was a New Testament and the New Testament was more moderate and Christianity went to a place of enlightenment and separation of church and state. And, unfortunately, there is no new Qur'an. I would be very much in favor if the Muslims would get rid all the violent passages from the Qur'an--get rid of it, tear it out of the Qur'an and build it a new, more moderate Islam ...

Muslims can't get rid of the violent passages, because they are Allah's perfected, immutable word, any attempt to alter his word earns the editor a place in Hell fire.

Should all of the violence in the Old Testament and all the calls to kill people and slaughter them--should that also be eliminated; should Christians today and Jews go back and purge their books?

The diversionary attack is repeated, in different terms. The Hebrew genocide mandate expired with the conquest of Canaan. It has no modern validity. Christ did not issue any genocide edicts. There is no New Testament equivalent of Al-Anfal 67.

No, like I said...

No? Just the Muslims...

The interviewer persists in postulating a false equivalence between Christianity and Islam.

Like I said, The Old Testament was followed by a more moderate New Testament whereas we have not seen because Muslims believe its the word of Allah and it can not be criticized there has not been and there probably will not be a new Qur'an and at the same time we have in the world no problem with Christians or Jews with few exceptions, of course out there we have a problem, and all over the world, with the ideology of hatred which is called Islam.

Islam is an ideology of supremacism, genocidal conquest and domination.

The movie Fitna is still available on line. The Qur'an quotes used in Fitna and Wilders' address to the Dutch Parliament are documented in this blog post.