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Showing posts with label Fort Dix. Show all posts
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Saturday, July 7, 2007

The Liberals and Suicide

The Idiot Liberals

The Idiot Liberals

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:15 PM

James Taranto

The Liberal Suicide Pact
It seems we weren’t the only one to notice that the New York Times buried news of a foiled terror plot against John F. Kennedy International Airport on page 37. A pair of Times readers submitted questions about this to Suzanne Daley, the paper’s national editor, who is doing a “Talk to the Newsroom” question-and-answer series this week. Here is Daley’s explanation:

Here’s the basic thinking on the J.F.K. story: In the years since 9/11, there have been quite a few interrupted terrorist plots. It now seems possible to exercise some judgment about their gravity. Not all plots are the same. In this case, law enforcement officials said that J.F.K. was never in immediate danger. The plotters had yet to lay out plans. They had no financing. Nor did they have any explosives. It is with all that in mind, that the editors in charge this weekend did not put this story on the front page.

In truth, the decision was widely debated even within this newsroom. At the front page meeting this morning, we took an informal poll and a few editors thought the story should have been more prominently played. Some argued it should have been fronted, regardless of the lameness of the plot, simply because it was what everyone was talking about.

Today, the Times has yet another editorial demanding that enemy combatants be afforded full rights under the U.S. Constitution:

Congress should shut down Guantánamo Bay, as called for in bills sponsored by two California Democrats, Representative Jane Harman in the House and Senator Dianne Feinstein in the Senate. Both lawmakers are intimately familiar with the camp and have concluded it is beyond salvaging.

Their bill would close Gitmo in a year and the detainees would be screened by real courts. Those who are truly illegal combatants would be sent to military or civilian jails in the United States, to be tried under time-tested American rules of justice, or sent to an international tribunal. Some would be returned to their native lands for trial, if warranted. The rest would be set free, as they should have been long ago.

The Guantánamo camp was created on a myth–that the American judicial system could not handle prisoners of “the war against terror.”

The attitudes expressed by Daley and the Times editorial board are quite typical of elite liberal thought. They share a premise that the threat of terrorism has been greatly exaggerated. But on closer analysis, there is a contradiction, one that reveals why liberal thinking on terrorism is dangerous not only to American national security but also, in the long run, to liberal ideals.

Every time law-enforcement authorities announce that they have stopped a terror plan, we hear Daley-like pooh-poohing from the left: The plot wasn’t really that serious, it was nowhere near being carried out, the suspects were just a bunch of losers, that sort of thing. (The battier Bush-haters add that the announcement is a publicity stunt to stoke public fear or serve some political purpose.)

If this is true, then the Times’s blithe assurance that the criminal-justice system is sufficient for dealing with the terror threat is utterly fatuous, is it not?

Of course, newspaper editorialists don’t make policy, so their fatuity is cost-free. But the Times’s ideas are well within what passes for the mainstream of the Democratic Party. The Times carries a news story today titled “Democrats Hope to Expand Rights at Guantanamo.” They are unlikely to succeed as long as George W. Bush wields the veto pen, but if a Democrat is elected president next year, all bets are off.

John Edwards has endorsed the view, which the Times expressed with those scare quotes above, that the war on terror isn’t real. Barack Obama, in a CNN forum the other night, declared, “I believe Guantanamo, the decision to detain people without charges, is unjust”–never mind that under international law, even legitimate prisoners of war may be held without charge for the duration of hostilities.

If the Democrats hold their congressional majorities and one of them becomes president, then, it is quite possible that the Times’s view will prevail.

What the Times is proposing is that all terrorists in U.S. custody be freed unless prosecutors can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they have committed a specific crime–and in making their case, prosecutors would be bound by all the restrictions on admissibility of evidence that protect ordinary criminal defendants in the civilian courts.

What if the U.S. adopts such an approach and it turns out to be inimical to national security? What if, that is, President Clinton or President Obama or President Edwards signs the Harmon-Feinstein legislation, Guantanamo is emptied, and a few years later we see another 9/11 or worse?

Would the American people accept the idea that serial mass murder on our own soil is just the price we have to pay to preserve some abstract concept of liberty–that is, that the Constitution is a suicide pact after all? We doubt it.

It is much more likely that the political system would find it impossible to resist public demands for much harsher antiterror measures, probably involving genuine curtailments of civil liberties. There is no reason to think that liberal politicians would resist such demands. After all, Woodrow Wilson restricted free speech during World War I, and Franklin D. Roosevelt interned tens of thousands of American citizens during World War II, cheered on by then-Gov. Earl Warren of California. In both cases the Supreme Court ratified the president’s excesses.

By overreacting to imagined civil liberties threats today, American liberals may be setting the stage for future overreactions in the other direction. Guantanamo helps keep America free as well as safe.

Some of the world’s most prominent idiots are going to get us all killed.

The 110th Congress Sucks

Political Correctness Is For The Weak

Political Correctness Is For The Weak

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 3:20 PM

Ed Koch

Senators Joe Lieberman (ID-CT), Jon Kyl (R-AZ) and Susan Collins (R-ME) have introduced on the Senate side a companion bill “to provide immunity to individuals who report suspicious activities.” The protection afforded “would provide civil immunity in American courts for citizens who, acting in good faith, report threats to our transportation systems to appropriate law-enforcement and transportation-system officials, without fear of being sued. The bill would not protect individuals who knowingly make false statements.”

The press release of the three senators stated,

“In a speech to the U.S. Senate, Collins explained that the recent arrests in Fort Dix, New Jersey, which foiled a plot to attack and kill American soldiers, was the result of a tip from a vigilant citizen, coupled with effective coordination by state and federal law enforcement officials.”

In the Minneapolis case, the action taken against the six Muslims in removing them from the plane was based on their conduct, not on ethnic profiling. Witnessing suspicious acts and reporting them is no different than bystanders reporting suspicious activities to a district attorney, which is a privileged act. Those voting against the Peter King amendment were foolish and demonstrate that political correctness can sometimes trump reason.

Friday, July 6, 2007

Hugh On American Jihad

AMEN, Hugh Hewitt!!

AMEN, Hugh Hewitt!!

Saturday, June 02, 2007 2:26 PM

An OUTSTANDING assessment! And short and sweet as well…

Saturday, June 02, 2007

Two Domestic Jihadist Plots In Two Months Posted by Hugh Hewitt | 2:05 PM

It must be time to issue probationary 601(h) visas to millions of illegals in the country regardless of their country of origin or their ideology.

The New York Times notices the deep split in the GOP ranks (and also reports that the Wall Street Journal’s Paul Gigot has rejected the National Review’s invitation to debate the immigration bill.)

The big split within the GOP is over the security provisions of the bill which are simply not serious, and the arguments in their defense which aren’t persuasive.

The Fort Dix Six and the Kennedy Airport Four (plus one TB patient) are illustrating in serial fashion that the U.S. has a huge security problem that begins with its porous borders. Legitimizing hundreds of thousands of hostiles in our midst –even though the vast majority of 601(h)ers are here just to work and raise families– is a non-starter to every realist about the terrorist threat facing the country.

MUST add this article here. I placed it in the comments but decided to place it here also.

Debra Saunders

Bush and McCain both make the dishonest argument that the only alternative is to deport every illegal immigrant. Wrong. Any rube can tell you that the most likely alternative is the status quo.

What is more, Bush and McCain do a disservice to imply that racism is the key reason why critics oppose the Kennedy-Kyl bill.

Message to Washington: If you want Americans to approve of an immigration compromise, show some respect. We, too, care about America’s soul — we value the important legacy of immigrants to America, but nonetheless fear what rewarding illegal immigration might do to this country.

I understand how folks who think as I do will be described in the future, but I do believe we deserve better treatment from George W. Bush today.

Thursday, July 5, 2007

War Talk

Spree Says To Pass This Along

Spree Says To Pass This Along

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:26 PM

From Spree’s place with permissions granted:

I received an email this morning from SSG Dave Thulm in Al Asad, Iraq, from Appeal for Courage, letting me know that Appeal for Courage will be formally presented to several members of congress today.

Spree-
just a heads up that the Appeal For Courage will be formally presented to several members of Congress this afternoon. Quite a situation when soldiers have to ask to be allowed to stay in the combat zone to finish the job, but we have over 2800 signatures so far asking for just that. Our website is
appealforcouarge.org, and we will be rounding up the (sure to be underwhelming) media coverage.

Thanks for your time and your great blog, I read it every day.


SSG Dave Thul
Al Asad, Iraq

Remember these are active military members asking the Congress to show courage in a time of war.

To remind everyone what their message is that they are delivering to members of congress:

It is a sad day when our active members of the military are fighting for us overseas and they feel forced to fight our Democratic Congress and Senate also here in our country, just so they will not have defeat forced down their throats when they can see the success and progress they are making in Iraq. (updated)

Pass this around to anybody and everybody because it is not like our media will be reporting much on it.

To the above messages from David In Iraq and Spree, I add the following from The Patriot Post.

THE FOUNDATION: INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS


Close to home — Fort Dix, New Jersey was a jihadi target

“War, like most other things, is a science to be acquired and perfected by diligence, by perserverance, by time, and by practice.” —Alexander Hamilton

UPRIGHT

“Listening to the messages of al-Qa’ida’s leaders, you understand that they see their old defeats in very personal and contemporary terms. They are in a ‘long war’ against us, even if we don’t know it. And they’re committed to winning it.” —former U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson ++ “The hard truth is that progress in Iraq (and there has been some since the surge began) is painstakingly slow. It will require patience and grit to prevail. But to suggest that diplomacy can solve this problem now is pure fantasy.” —Mona Charen

The Leftinistra have been eerily silent. Any guesses as to why?

Latest updates from Spree and a host of others!!

Patrick Ruffini, also from the We Win They Lose effort, ( see petition at the top of the page) has also picked up on this issue over at Townhall!!!!!!

Others are talking about the Appeal for Courage being formally presented to members of Congress today:

Army Times, Michelle Malkin, Power Line, Political Punch, Foriegn and Domestic (Thanks for the mention!!!!)

Thanks to Foreign and Domestic we have the official release on this:

Here is the official press release:To Reporters/Editors, please note the following item from the Daybook:

2:30 p.m. GOP-IRAQ SUPPORT _ Senators Lindsey Graham and Saxby Chambliss , House Republican Leader John Boehner, Republican Whip Roy Blunt and Chief Deputy Whip Eric Cantor will accept a petition - the Appeal for Courage - signed by more than 2,700 U.S. service members urging Congress to support the mission in Iraq .

Location: Lobby Entrance, Veterans of Foreign Wars Headquarters, 200 Maryland Ave. NE.

Our active military members should not have to do this, but they are, just like they don’t have to fight for our freedoms and to protect us, yet they do.

Bless them and THANKS!!!!

From the Army Times article:“

No one knows the stakes in this war better than the men and women who face, and have faced, our enemies on the front lines,” Boehner said. “They understand that the security of current and future generations of Americans may be dictated by the actions Congress takes today, and I commend them both for their service and for going above and beyond the call of duty to ensure that their mission is given chance to succeed.”

Boehner said he is “honored to accept these petitions and share the story of the Appeal for Courage with my colleagues. This could not have come at a more important time.”

Many view Appeal for Courage as a response to a group calling itself Appeal for Redress, which in January turned over a petition signed by about 1,000 service members calling for Congress to cut off funding for the Iraq combat mission. The number of signatures on that petition has grown to about 1,900.

About 60 percent of the 2,700 signatures on the Appeal For Courage petition come from service members who are serving or have served in Iraq, with about two-thirds enlisted members and one-third officers. The signatures were gathered over about a month.

The petition states: “As an American currently serving my nation in uniform, I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to fully support our mission in Iraq and halt any calls for retreat. I also respectfully urge my political leaders to actively oppose media efforts which embolden my enemy while demoralizing American support at home. The War in Iraq is a necessary and just effort to bring freedom to the Middle East and protect America from further attack.”

On Tuesday, Boehner, who has called the withdrawal timetable for Iraq a plan for surrender, said he was no more pleased with a new Democratic plan that would provide only a couple of months of funding for Iraq combat operations while lawmakers continue to debate strategy.

Boehner said Democratic leaders “should not treat our men and women in uniform like they are children who are getting a monthly allowance. Republicans will not support rationing funds for our troops in harm’s way and neither will the American people.”

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Boehner!!!!!!!!!!

Fort Dix Terrorists

Islamic Terrorist Plot On Fort Dix!

Islamic Terrorist Plot On Fort Dix!

Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:11 AM

Former Yugoslav Refugees And the bleeding hearts want to allow MORE “refugees” into the country?

Five of them lived in Cherry Hill, about 10 miles east of Philadelphia and 20 miles southwest of Fort Dix, he said.

“They were planning an attack on Fort Dix in which they would kill as many soldiers as possible,” Drewniak said.

The suspects were described as “Islamic radicals” by Greg Reinert, a spokesman for the United States Attorney’s Office. A law enforcement source told FOX News that all of the suspects are recent converts and were not born Muslims.

NYSlimes report here

Free Republic Data Here


3 of the suspects are ILLEGAL aliens!! HELLO??

Tuesday, May 08, 2007

War On Terror: Cherry Hill, New Jersey

Posted by: Kevin McCullough at 10:44 AM

Remember when the jokers running for President from the democratic party were asked to raise their hands to assert their belief as to whether or not there existed an actual Global War On Terror?

I wonder if an attack on a U.S. Military base, on our soil, by Muslim terrorists, at least one of whom is an illegal alien, would have any impact on their answer?

What say… the American voter?


The Leftinistra are comprised of political posturing morons. Plain and simple.


Tuesday, May 08, 2007
Fort Dix Terror Plot Busted
Posted by: Mary Katharine Ham at 12:53 PM

Foiled by the One-Hour Photo, thank God:

It began when a man walked into a photo shop and asked to convert a tape to a DVD, two law enforcement officials said.

The tape contained scenes of men conducting weapons training in anisolated area of the Pocono Mountains in New Jersey, using handguns andrifles and firing live ammo, senior law enforcement officials said.

It was intended for training purposes and to recruit more members to the group’s cause, according to those officials.

The technician making the dub from tape to DVD saw the contentand notified authorities. The case was passed from regionalcounterterror officials in New Jersey to the Philadelphia FBI JointTerrorist Task Force.

They had planned to ambush a military facility with automatic weapons. They weighed Fort Monmouth Army Base and Dover Airforce Base before settling on Fort Dix, where one of the suspects allegedly had access as a pizza delivery guy.

Attacking a military installation instead of a civilian target seems odd for terrorist operations, doesn’t it? Wonder if they’re independent operators or part of a group. No one has claimed it yet.

Reports say the suspects are radicals from former Yugoslavia, Jordan, and Turkey. Three are illegal aliens. The border-as-security-issue topic will get a lot of attention this week from the second-tier Republican candidates who will bash the front-runners’ “comprehensive” plans, and from pundits who want to push the Republican front-runners into harder-core stances. I’m interested to hear the front-runners’ discussions of how comprehensive plans are well-suited to deal with these kinds of threats. I’m not being snippy. The week oughtta be an interesting discussion.

The suspects, identified as Dritan Duka, Eljvir Duka, Shain Duka,Mohamad Shnewer, Derdar Tatar and Agron Abdullahu, have been chargedwith conspiring to kill U.S. government employees. Separately, the Dukabrothers have been charged with being illegal aliens in possession offirearms.

The Dukas, believed to be Islamic radicals, are in theUnited States illegally, while Shnewer is a U.S. citizen born inJordan, according to the Justice Department.

Tony Snow’s claiming no evidence of ties to international terrorist groups:

“They are not charged with being members of an international terrorismorganization,” Snow said. “At least at this point, there is no evidencethat they received direction from international terror organizations.”

But they were, indeed, inspired by al Qaeda:

The would-be attackers, ethnic Albanians who had been undersurveillance by the FBI for months, practiced by shooting paintballguns and real weapons in a rural area of the Poconos, one source said.They also allegedly watched jihadist videos in which Osama bin Ladenurged them toward martyrdom.

“They were prepared to die,” said the law enforcement source. “Webecame increasingly convinced this was for real and these guys wereready to roll.”

Also, Confederate Yankee gives the plot a name: “I formally move that we call this the “Duka, Duka, Mohammed Jihad.”

They wanted to kill 100 soldiers. Thank goodness for the video store employee who reported them and two brave informants who infiltrated the group:

“I don’t want to exaggerate, and I assure you that you can hit anAmerican base very easily,” one of the men told an informant, accordingto a recounting of the conversation provided in the court documents.”You take a map and draw it, and then you calculate that there areareas where there are 100 to 200 individuals and you should allocatesix to seven persons for this alone.”In addition to viewing videos andfootage of men shooting weapons and shouting Islamic slogans, membersof the group conducted surveillance of several potential militarytargets; obtained semi-automatic weapons they could use in an attackand rented a house in the Pocono mountains of Pennsylvania to train ata nearby shooting range, the charging documents show.

Also, thank goodness the NYT didn’t see fit to write about exactly how the FBI places informants in suspected militant Islamic organizations, you know, during the investigation. You know, for the public good and all.

Allah is, of course, updating all day. Check with him for the very latest, as he’s the fastest on the ‘Net.

Michelle Malkin notes that many ethnic Albanians made their homes near Fort Dix after they were welcomed there as refugees from Kosovo. Gives lie to the idea that we provoke our attacks…we provoke them, all right, with the imperialistic indignity of three hots and a cot for the downtrodden. Gotta love the gratitude from this little group.

Update: Here’s the run-down on the Fort Dix Army installation:

Fort Dix consists of 31,065 acres of land, of which 13,765 acres are range and impact areas and 14,000 are cIassified as contiguous maneuver area. The remainder of the installation is the cantonment area. Fort Dix training areas are bordered by the Lebanon State Forest (26,000 acres), Lakehurst Naval Air Engineering Center (2,100 acres) and selected Wildlife Management Areas (34,900 acres) which enable this installation to simultaneously support combat, combat support, and combat service support training.

And this just in from Hugh Hewitt

Tuesday, May 08, 2007

“Waiting For Al Qaeda’s Next Bonb” and the Fort Dix Terrorists

Posted by Hugh Hewitt | 3:41 PM

The Economist has a long article on the jihadist threat within Great Britain. Key excerpt:

In Britain MI5 is expanding substantially, from 1,800 staff in 2001 to a projected 3,500 in 2008. But the number of suspected terrorist networks is growing exponentially, roughly doubling every year since the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, MI5’s recently departed head, said in November that her service was tracking more than 1,600 known active militants (up from 250 in 2001, according to a parliamentary report). Those extremists operated in a pool of perhaps 100,000 sympathizers who, according to one poll she cited, thought the London bombings were justified. Referring to a popular British television series about MI5, Dame Eliza said: “I wish life were like ‘Spooks’, where everything is (a) knowable and (b) soluble by six people.”

In fact, surveillance uses manpower intensively. Dozens of people are required to keep track of a single suspect 24 hours a day. Those deemed to pose a “threat to life” take precedence, but these days there are so many of them that MI5 has to decide which threat to life appears to be the most acute. Indeed, some security officials suspect al-Qaeda may be deliberately flooding Britain with terrorist plots in the hope of overwhelming its defences.

The Fort Dix plot underscores that the U.S. is not immune to the very same problems that plague the U.K. “Today we dodged a bullet,” the FBI Special Agent in Charge in Philadelphia declared moments ago, as he described “a new form of terrorism,” “home grown terrorists” at least as dangerous as al Qaeda operatives. “The threat is real and the stakes are very, very high.”

From The National Review:

Wednesday, May 09, 2007

The October Surprise That Wasn’t: The Fort Dix Six

Posted by Hugh Hewitt | 9:06 AM

The editors at Tthe NationalReview.com have a fine piece up on the Fort Dix six that includes this:

Remember the indignation of the Left and civil-liberties extremists at John Ashcroft’s post-9/11 suggestion that ordinary citizens be vigilant and report suspicious behavior to law enforcement? When the alleged jihadists, having recorded one of their paramilitary training sessions, foolishly took the DVD to a store for copying, a store employee became alarmed and notified the FBI. Without the tip, the jihadists might well have gone undiscovered.

To which I’d like to add some other memories: The charges that the Administration has repeatedly used news related to the war and terrorism to sacre the electorate or manipulate voting. Here’s one such insinuation from Kevin Drum in 2004, but the list is long.

Given the left’s certainty about BushCo’s tactics, I wonder if they are wondering why Rove didn’t have the arrests timed for October?

Another update story and commentary here. Dodging bullets at Fort Dix
By Cal Thomas

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