Ground Zero Mosque: Insult added to Injury
I have long maintained that the most intelligent Englishmen came to America, leaving the dullards behind. It seems that Alex Massie wants to prove my case. His blog post turned up in one of my Google Alerts. He had written an arrogant, mocking post about the opposition to the Cordoba House project, followed up by a mockery of the readers who commented on the first post. It was the second post that triggered the alert.
The initial post began this way, setting the tone for the series.
Yes, when I first read about plans for a mosque "at Ground Zero" my initial reaction was to wonder why, whatever the merits of an Islamic Cultural Centre in Lower Manhattan, such a project had to be built in such a location. It seemed likely to cause offense even if none were intended.
The reaction to the Cordoba House initiative, however, has changed my mind: I now think not only is there no reason not to carry on with the project but that, contra its critics, it now must be built a couple of blocks from the site of the former World Trade Center.
The reaction to the Cordoba House initiative, however, has changed my mind: I now think not only is there no reason not to carry on with the project but that, contra its critics, it now must be built a couple of blocks from the site of the former World Trade Center.
" It seemed likely to cause offense even if none were intended." That happens to be the standard argument against the project. I have not used it in my postings on the subject, because I regard it as invalid. Offense is intended and irrelevant. Muslims build Mosques on the sites of former temples as a sign of Islamic supremacy and triumph. Such Mosque building is an intentional insult to conquered people.
While the intended insult may be very sharp to the families of a few of the 3000 victims, others will fail to recognize it and go on with their lives diminished as they are by their tragic loss. On the tactical plane, their suffering is insignificant. The significance lies in the psychology of the other side.
In '01, Usama bin Laden spoke about the "strong horse".
when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse. This is only one goal; those who want people to worship the lord of the people, without following that doctrine, will be following the doctrine of Muhammad, peace be upon him.
Bin Laden comes from a tribal and predatory culture. Predators look for signs of weakness, selecting for the first attack, the victim that appears to be least able to out run them or offer effective resistance. Muslims are evaluating our will and ability to resist. Every sign of weakness gives them encouragement, which benefits their recruitment and funding drives. Our failure to win in Korea & Vietnam did not go unnoticed. Our failure to react effectively to the seizure of our Embassy in Tehran and our ignominious withdrawal from Somalia were the icing on the cake. Having ousted the Soviet Union from Afghanistan, Bin Laden was ready for a new easy prey.
Those who pontificate from the throne of ignorance do not understand the psychology involved, nor Allah's promise.
3:111. They will do you no harm, barring a trifling annoyance; and if they fight against you, they will show you their backs, and they will not be helped.
The Qur'an is primarily about incentivizing jihad and persuading Muslims to march forth in it. Minimize the risks, maximize the rewards. Every time we make a concession to Muslims or fail to respond forcefully and with resolve to an insult from them, we add to our image as the weak horse, emboldening the enemy and inviting a fresh attack.
They pronounced the takbir while slitting the throats of the flight crews. Five times every day they recite it in the call to prayer and in their prayers they recite it again. "Allah is greater." Where? Two blocks, about six hundred feet from the site of the towers. Part of one of the jets penetrated the roof of the Burlington Coat Factory outlet and ended up in its basement. That site is an extension of ground zero. Building a Mosque there is a sign of Islam's triumph. It is the ultimate insult, not only to the families of the victims, but to every person who desires to live as a freeman. Allowing that insult to go unanswered is sign of weakness and lack of will; an invitation: "hit us again, please"; "thank you, may I have another."
Do you know what they do when they pray? Do they recite the ten commandments? Do they recite the Lord's Prayer? Surely their ritual must be as innocuous. Yeah, right. Five times a day they curse us by reciting Surah al-Fatihah. Seven short verses, what is the big deal?
1:6. Guide us to the Straight Way
1:7. The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians).
1:7. The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians).
Go read the context and read the footnotes. They are reminding Allah of how he hates us and wants to burn us. Got a clue yet? For the slow segment of the audience, I have another clue.
3:87. They are those whose recompense is that on them (rests) the Curse of Allâh, of the angels, and of all mankind.
9:30. And the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allâh, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allâh. That is a saying from their mouths. They imitate the saying of the disbelievers of old. Allâh's Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth!
9:30. And the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allâh, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allâh. That is a saying from their mouths. They imitate the saying of the disbelievers of old. Allâh's Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth!
Alex is on a roll, revealing how his mind was changed by the critics of the project, citing Mayor Giuliani as his exemplar.
The people responsible for changing my mind are those Republicans and cultural conservatives most opposed to the plan. Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich are merely the more high-profile "campaigners" protesting that the proposed centre is offensive or that it "stabs the heart" or represents an American capitulation to "radical Islam". Rudy Giuliani's reaction was equally typical:
"This is a desecration," he added. "Nobody would allow something like that at Pearl Harbor. Let's have some respect for who died there and why they died there. Let's not put this off on some kind of politically correct theory.
"I mean, they died there because of Islamic extremist terrorism. They are our enemy, we can say that, the world will not end when we say that. And the reality is, it will not and should not insult any decent Muslim because decent Muslims should be as opposed to Islamic extremism as you and I are."
It is a desecration, in the tradition of Ayodhya and Constantinople. Islam has a pattern of demolishing temples and churches, replacing them with Mosques. It is the insult which adds to the injury of conquest and genocide. Have we allowed a Shinto shrine at Pearl Harbor? Why not?
Respect for those who died there? Rudy, their cremains went to the landfill. They are dead, no further injury can be done to them. Our concern should be for the living who will be maimed and killed in the next attack if we don't preventing it by getting the Muslims out of here and keeping them out of here before they succeed again.
No, Rudy, they died because of Islam. Extremism is a meaningless shibboleth which serves to distract us from an unpalatable reality. The enemy is Islam. It needs no adjectives or qualifiers. The accursed abomination flows directly from Moe's recitation and sunnah just as the Hindu, Assyrian & Armenian genocides did.
Decent Muslim? Decent Muslim?? Decent Muslim??? Jesus Christ!!!! It is the ultimate idiocy; the perfected oxymoron. These politicians insult our intelligence every time they open their mouths to lie. "Kill them wherever you find them." "Fight them until..." "Fight those who..." Get a clue! No decent person worships a demon who demands great slaughter as a precondition of entry into Paradise. No decent man worships a demon who commands him to wage war upon us until we cease to resist and worship only that demon. No decent man worships a demon who commands him to wage war upon us until we are subjugated and extorted. No decent person regards as a saint and seeks to emulate a man who took sex slaves from captive women and permitted his army to rape captives. Muslims worship Allah. Muslims emulate Muhammad bin Abdullah. No decent person does that.
A few of them may not know about the doctrines of jihad, genocide and terror. They are Muslims because their ancestors were given the choice of Islam or death. They may be Muslins in name only. They may not really believe. But we will not hear any of them publicly abjuring the doctrines enshrined in Surah al-Anfal & Surah at-Taubah and exemplified in the books of Jihad, Khumus & Expedition of Sahih Bukhari. Islam is all or nothing, not a la carte.
For those who are not regular readers of my blog posts, the documentation necessary to comprehend the offensive reality of the preceding paragraph is found here: What's Wrong With Islam/Muslims?
Instead of addressing the substance of Giuliani's statement, Alex spews the usual LeftTard crap.
If any of this was true then, yes, the objections would have some merit and might even be persuasive. But it's not. First, the cultural and community centre - which will, yes, include a prayer room - is not actually being built at Ground Zero but two blocks away (which, as anyone who knows NYC knows means it is not next door or on the same site at all) and that, moreover, Park Place is hardly connected to the former WTC site at all. And in any case, muslims have been using the site as an overflow prayer room for a Tribeca mosque for some time anyway without anyone being upset.
Mosque & prayer room are the same entity. The Mosque is the central purpose of the proposed structure, the rest is persiflage. Two blocks, big deal! How much of the debris had to be swept from Park Street? One landing gear is in the basement, that makes it part of the battlefield. Perhaps it did not upset you, Alex, but it outraged me when I found out about it.
So Muslims have a Constitutional right to erect Mosques and worship? Do they? Islam is not severable, it is all or nothing. Muslims can not keep the nice parts and discard jihad, genocide and terror, those are a regular part of worshiping Allah. Attacking kuffar every year is fard al kifaya, a religious obligation.
http://www.crusadersarmory.co.cc/RelianceO9-1.html
What must a Muslim do to avoid eternity in the fire? Do you have a clue? Surah as-Saff would inform you most explicitly if you would read the last four of its ts fourteen verses. What condemns a Muslim to the fire? Failure to join the jihad. What is the relationship between Allah and Muslims? They are his slaves. What is their mission? Killing us. If they have a right to practice Islam, then our rights are abrogated.
Tolerance, respect and rights do not work unless they are reciprocal. Islam does not reciprocate. Read this hadith carefully, paying close attention to the clauses to which I added emphasis.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have."
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have."
Muslims are commanded to fight us. Our blood and property are not sacred to them and we have no rights until we join them in slavery to Allah. Do you understand why Islam can not be tolerated?
