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Saturday, July 7, 2007

Why We Don't Debate Moonbats

An Ignoramous Tries To Debate A Scholar

This is too rich. A poor delusional fool tries to tell a scholar and learned man of years studying Islam that he is a bigot. Amazing. Please see this previous post.

Subsequent comments and originating post can be found here.

Let us begin:

Refutation of Idiocy

Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:15 PM

This is a response to comments on my previous post. I have annotated the comments with superscripts. My responses follow in an ordered list referring to the superscripts.

Barack in ‘08 writes: Tuesday, June, 12, 2007 1:07 PM
Ignorant to Islam
“Should we wait impatiently for the next beltway sniping, mall shooting or vehicular homicide?”

Of course not. All murderers should be pursued regardless of race or religion.1

“Should we wait until a school bus is seized or a school taken over?”

Of course not. I disagree with your notion that the religion of Islam in itself kills people2. People kill people. Just like the Catholic church didn’t molest children… The priests themselves within the catholic church molested children. Handguns don’t go off by themselves either and so on so forth. Murderers come in all religions… Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, White-supremacist religions, Black-supremacist religions etc etc it doesn’t matter. Just because a terrorist or murderer is religious, doesn’t mean that religion promotes terrorists.3

I’ll make sure to check out and study the links your provided when I have a little more time to burn. I’m very busy today. Feel free to call me ignorant to Islam until then.

“Is there some reason why we should give Islam a lever, fulcrum and place to stand?”

I don’t believe all 1.some billion Muslims are radical extremists4. Just like I don’t think all Christians are radical extremists.5 Yes, there are radical Christians and Muslims that pervert religion to fit their radical and murderous agendas6. You shouldn’t broad brush the entire religion just because a few murderers choose to slit throats while chanting “Allah Akbar”.7

solo writes: Tuesday, June, 12, 2007 1:31 PM

Please do drop the references to Christianity or Buddhism when talking about Islam.

Islam is not a religion as we understand it in the west.8 Christians don’t go around cutting heads off and making a video of it. Neither do they strap bombs to children to blow up and kill people.

Islam is not a religion of peace. The teachings of Muhammed specifically call for all manner of violence against the infidel.

When was the last time you recall a Christian pastor exhorting his congregation to go out and kill people?9 Or a Buddhist chanting death to America and then strapping a bomb around himself with the intent of killing people indiscriminatly…men, women and children?

I sincerely do hope you take the time to educate yourself.

Barack in ‘08 writes: Tuesday, June, 12, 2007 2:52 PM
Robertson and others promote murder
“Christians don’t go around cutting heads off and making a video of it. Neither do they strap bombs to children to blow up and kill people.”Neither do 99.99% of peaceful Muslims.10

“When was the last time you recall a Christian pastor exhorting his congregation to go out and kill people?”

Pat Robertson - “You know, I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it,”… “We have the ability to take him (Chavez) out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability”… “We don’t need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator,”… “It’s a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.”11

  1. Irrelevant. Islam is subornation of murder. “kill them wherever you find them”; “fight them until”; “I am commanded to fight”; “so that they kill others and are killed”. Exactly what part of this do you not comprehend?

  2. Islam motivates Muslims to murder; that is its purpose: to enrich Muhammad through conquest. Islam has no other function. This is why Al-Anfal & At-Taubah are entirely dedicated and devoted to warmongering.

  3. The Conquistadors acted in contravention of Christ’s teaching and example. Priests who molest children do so in contravention of Christ’s teaching and example. Muslims who engage in terrorism & genocide do so in obedience to Allah and in emulation of Muhammad. Only damn fools ignore this critical difference.

  4. ‘Radical’, ‘extremist’ & ‘fundamentalist’ are diversionary fabulisms. Islam is literalist, absolutist, supremacist & triumphalism. Allah set the standard; Muhammad exemplified it; that is Islam: conquest, genocide & terror.

  5. Show me the New Testament Book, Chapter & Verse in which Jesus Christ sanctified & exemplified conquest, genocide & terrorism! Exceptions are not the rule; deviation does not establish doctrine, scripture does.

  6. Islam is Muhammad’s agenda: obtaining wealth, income, power and sex slaves through the professional practice of piracy and extortion. Christians who murder contravene Christ’s teaching & example. Muslims who conquer, terrorize, rape, pillage & plunder obey Allah & emulate Muhammad.

  7. Allah commanded & Muhammad exemplified the conduct described. They define Islam, I don’t! Its what Muslims do because its what Islam is!

  8. Islam is a continuing criminal enterprise with a fabulistic, plagiarized faith component. The false faith component has two functions: to camouflage Islam’s true purpose and to motivate men to enrich Muhammad through piracy.

  9. Irrelevant: such an act would be in contravention of orthodox Christian doctrine.

  10. Offensive Jihad is fard kifaya; defensive Jihad is fard ayn. Learn the difference.

  11. Islam requires its believers to kill and be killed. Islam is all about making war for Muhammad’s enrichment & empowerment. Christianity is about God’s plan of salvation through repentance & forgiveness. You have proved nothing of value.